thanks Daiku. What do you find easiest to raise for yourself and also if one were attempting a hand raising with assist of a gin pole perhaps? I look at queen post trusses and they mostly have in common that queen post is joining into rafter with the collar tie taking a bit of a back seat, so to speak, and joining offset to the queen post below its top. Of course there are many examples but this is something I have noticed. Then again what we are talking about here is not so much a truss as the tie beam is not making the truss triangle like it should because of the extended post design, but still perhaps this a good point to look at when answering this question that perhaps it is better the queen joins into the rafter than the collar tie if one must choose ? I wonder how does shrinkage affect the queen rafter connection? is it better or worse effects than the collar ties'. Then also what is to be said for the design of both the queen and the collar joining respectively into their third of the rafter? So much to learn and so many mistakes to be made but it is all so fun and exciting for me to stop...Let me know if anyone has anything to share, as this seems to be a topic worth studying. tb