Jim. I dont see the harm in trying to know the ideal situation for the frame itself, regardless of whether the client is not going to realistically care about it or not. I feel that you must first know these conditions before you go about making compromises to them, based on ideal conditions for something, someone other than the frame. Also, when I said it may possibly be better to cut the frame just before the raising, I did not mean the day or two before, just not two years. More like two weeks or two months.Acording to posts by others, that may not be necessary after all. I do appreciate your input on the milling of timbers as you have much experience and I have adjusted my original ideas on waiting for the logs to season and have replaced it with cutting logs to dimension and seasoning the timbers 6-8 weeks. thanks tb