Timber Framers Guild Forums General General Forum Questions colar tie

hello

I rebuilt an old corn barn this last summer. it was three bend so not very big. In the center bent I put a collar tie. I opened up the barn the other day and the collar tie was on the floor.

? is. What is out there to replace the collar tie with something in compression instead of in tension . but can only go rafter to rafter.

iamm thinking an X

have a good day
heath enright
pinegrovehewing co.

Hi Heath;

Collar beams are almost always in compression. If you can't spend time getting creative trying to put a collar in after-the-fact, maybe you will need to violate the frame with some nails!

Jim

If the colar was on the floor, wa-hapen? Did the walls move out? Tim

I was under the impression that collar ties don't hold the walls together, but instead serve to keep the rafters from sagging and thereby actually increase the possible wall spread. Is this right? Would someone educate me? Thanks in advance.

My guess is that the collar tie was too low!! If it is at the top third like it should be it will be in compression!

Carlos

Unless there is nothing else to tie the walls ...


Are there any tie beams in this building?

How could it fall out? How was it attached? Definitely need more infor for these guys. A picture is worth 1000 words.

ill put some pic up thurday of the barn

We want pictures!! We want pictures!!

hear is a pic (you might have to turn your head)

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL399/10944455/19463401/312891204.jpg