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#2148 12/08/05 04:27 AM
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Haz,
Glad to hear you are now a measuring pro.
The link to the pic went to the website but then got lost.
deralte

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Sorry the link failed. Here is one to the discussion group and folder for photos. Look under the heading Foundation for New House. There are about 10 photos. I go by the name of Haz on that website.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/photos

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Here is a new link to pics of our frame. It is easier to find and view the pictures. We are waiting to complete the shell with Amvic Insulated Concrete Form walls and SIPS for the roof. We ran into a little snow this last few weeks which has slowed things down a bit. I will post pictures of that part of the project if anyone is interested.

http://www.andystoys.net/html/gallery.family/album196

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Hi, what maker would you all suggest for a decent yet affordable line-level, transit? They can get quite expensive.

Also have you all found it helpful to have a transit that shoots along a y-axis in addition to the horizontal?

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If it's just establishing level that you're doing, and cost is a factor, I'd go with a laser, a decent one can be had for less than the optical site level route.

A full blown transit (as opposed to a site level) is a handy thing, and like anything knowing how to use it, means you'll find more use for it. But it adds to the cost of the investment and is more than is needed for most projects.


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I am just cheap and use a water level. It is coming to the time of year I switch the colored water for windshield washer fluid. Tim



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I second the laser. We use a self leveling rotating laser that was about $300.

The best thing is that shooting elevations is now a one man job. I would really hate to go back to a builder's level.

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Tim, you're not cheap, just an old Yankee...


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In my work I have relied on optical intstruments, first I used a David White 8300 builders transit/level since the 1970's. Very useful as a level, over short distance, but limited for precision in angular layout, 5 minutes of arc read off from a stamped vernier scale, in a layout test I could achieve + or - 3/8" in fifty feet for angular accuracy. So a tape check and readjust is normal.

Seven years ago, at auction, I bought a Lietz transit, a Brunson dumpy level, two tripods and a surveying rod for $400. The transit is an American pattern instrument all mechanical, no electrics, vernier scale reads to 20 seconds of arc, has upper and lower horizontal movements so repeating techniques can raise precision, if needed, and the scope can be inverted for cross checking and averaging readings. The proverbial gnats ass is clearly in sight.

The Brunson levels vial is calibrated to ten seconds per 2mm division compared to two minutes per 2mm division on the David White.

Using the old pattern instruments is satisfying, productive and accurate. The adjustments and techniques are easy to learn from any old surveyors manual. No electonics to go bad. Perhaps I was lucky at auction or older instruments are not favored in the marketplace but great lasting value is available.

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