Timber Framers Guild Forums General General Forum Questions Cruck and scribe workshops, what to study?

beautiful picture
nice building

That's awesome! Would be fun to pound some iron in that shop.

Here's the link to the pdf that Ken mentioned:
http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/library/cba/rr42.cfm?CFID=2210899&CFTOKEN=39965713

That's a sweet cruck Tim. I keep showing them to clients in the hopes that I can cut one on of these days.

And Dave, you're going to have a good time in that class, I took it a few years ago. I was drinking beer with the person who was buying the frame last Friday, and I think they backed out, so it may be up for sale again. Don't know if it's designed yet, but I believe it was 12x16 in past classes. Let me know if anyone's interested. Here's the frame we cut in the workshop:

Very nice. The frame for the workshop is going to have three bents. Thanks for all the iformation, everyone.

Hi Tim & Brad,

Brad,

I note that the workshop cruck did not employ any long wall braces. The 3 bay cruck that we will finish measuring this weekend does not have these either but it does have large windbraces in the roof.

Are the cruck mantles (dropped tie beams) one piece or are these interrupted. Given that you have used 4 pegs I would surmise interrupted ?

How did you fasten the bottom of the wall posts to the backs of the cruck blades - long pegs ? This was the method used on Saturday's cruck and it appears to have held up for 600 years.

Tim,

I am thoroughly impressed.

Is your mantle beam one piece lapped over the blades ?

Regards

Ken Hume

Thanks Ken.

Yes, it is a spindly little thing and half lapped. That was the first thing I noticed on the other frame pictured above, the interrupted mantle beam/tie. Don't tell anyone, I used screws to fasten the post to the base of the crucks, lapped and screwed. I didn't notice the absence of wall bracing, 'til now.

Tim

Dave,

Wish I could join you in that work shop. Every spare minute I have is spent trying to complete my TF addition before the coming Thanksgiving. Scribing and the Cruck frame work shop are on my list of things to do in the near future. The week long work shops I've take were some of the best vacations ever!
Stop in and say hello. I live on the bottom of Washington Mtn. Rd. just down the road from the Heartwood school, ask Jack or Brad for directions.

Karl Hines

Tim,

You should put that awesome picture on a brochure, business card, web site, etc... A great image to promote both yourself and your work.

Betty Bunker's "Cruck Buildings" is headed my way as we speak. My local book dealer was able to find two copies.

Hello everyone

Just had to stop in and see these wonderful pics and the great comraderie going on inthis thread.

A few posts back Ken was wondering what kept the feet of the bents from kicking out as the frame was being lifted, well I have reconstructed and raised a fair number of historic buildings over the years using man power assisted with gin poles you name it, in every instance what I did was to position one man with a good 4 foot pointed pry bar at the foot of each vertical post inserting it into the mortise hole, and as the post and bent was raised he would just gently guide it into its final resting spot, you would just hear a dull thud as it dropped into its position as the weight of the bent came to bear on it as it neared its vertical.

good thread

NH