Timber Framers Guild Forums General General Forum Questions 28 foot queen post?

I have posted many questions on this forum and have received alot of good feedback. I have not yet cut my first joint. With the weather turning to the good I got a quarter of my foundation pourded today on my 52x40 restoration. Last we the wind blew abot 60MPH and blew the entire wall out of my barn that is up on cribbing. It took all of the siding, nailers and quenn post. The quenn post is 28ft in length. I can get someone to cut me 26' beams but not 28' without great effort. I was wondering if it would be worth my while to take two beams and splice them above the second floor mortises. After looking at some of the splice joints out there it seems like it could be almost as strong. Does anyone have any recommendations or feedback on this. I actually have a inner queen post that needs to be replaced as well. Is there any way to repair this without taking the entire barn apart? The 2nd floor beams come from all four deirection on the inner post. Thanks in advance for any help.

Hi,

I would definitely recommend splicing your posts in case you cannot get one long piece.

When you choose a proper joinery and make the effort to cut it accurately you actually get not only a strong post but also nice interior detail. Splicing beams is very common technique for restoration of aged timbers without building disassembly.

Michal
TFDesign

Common vertical splices are variants on scarf joints with the opposed faces at least 4 times the post diameter in length. They can be pegged or wedged to keep em together.
The entirety of the splice should not be coupled to any other stick.
work safe, have fun

What would be the best plice to use? I see that on the cuvilly posts they used these.

http://www.tfguild.org/rendevous/cuvilly/scarf.jpg

Is there a book that will show the correct sequence for making the cuts for this type of joint?

Hi - too bad you are not in New England. I can cut beams up to 31 1/2 feet on my mill.

Check it out

http://www.farmphoto.com/photography/message.asp?dsply=all&mid=263591&gkp=

:rolleyes:

sawmill on farmphoto

Popeye:

Send me an email. I am one town over (Lyndeborough) and may need some long twigs for a barn project.

andy@winnmountainrestorations.com

Might check the Forestry Forum to see if you can find additional sawyers near you. http://www.forestryforum.com/

Several of the sawmill manufacturers that support the forum also maintain lists of owners who aren't running a commercial mill but are willing to saw special orders.

I won't say it's convenient, but you can cut a longer timber on a Woodmizer than the bed, and for that matter, probably any bandsaw mill.

Alright, I pressed the wrong button.

I was going to add that you're only looking for a single timber and a kind sawyer would likely take pity on you given the nature of your project, if you explain you only need one and that it would go to a good home, not just make two 14 footers.

Best of luck,

Zach

I've done the same thing with my M7 (23ft.+ of post from a 17'"max" mill). Not convenient (especially solo) but it was fun in it's own back breaking way.

I'll be joining my mill to one in MA to cut 32ft.+ timbers for barns we are both building. Another place to look would be http://www.logosol.com/

You might find two owners in your area willing to combine mills for a day or one who is will attempt shifting the cant.