Timber Framers Guild Forums General General Forum Questions historic hewing questionnaire

hello everyone tonight

Well it looks like no one wants to venture a response to my question above--Iam sure there are very knowledgeable people visiting this site each day that could give their slant to this historic construction problem--please join in--you thoughts are welcome,

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NH

Hello N.H.,

I tried following along your question. Could you link a photo, sketch, or other graphic?

Regards, jay

Hello everyone tonight

Hello Jay;

Thanks for joining in--I only have a couple of pictures that show the framework, and I posted the best one on page 94 of this forum, could you take a moment and go there and see what the frame looked like when I visited it at that time--I am sure everyone would appreciate your input--

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NH

Hello NH,

I still learning this system, my view shows only 20 pages for this post thread. How do I find page 94?

Regards, jay

Try setting preferences to 10 items to the page which is the default value.

Thanks Roger, I'm still only showing 20 total pages for this thread, and the way the counter is set up your advice came on post #30113.

I'll keep trying to figure it out.

thank's again, jay

Hello everyone tonight

Thanks for joining in Roger to give a little help to Jay, I am absolutely useless as far as giving help to him--All I know is that it is 2 pages back from where we are now, if that is of any help--sorry for the confusion.

and Jay when you do find that post, I am really interested in your slant on how that frame was erected--say if you were given the job or task of doing that in an historic setting--I am always interested in other people's thoughts

While Jay is finding his way and forming his opinion, maybe someone else might join in, and make this a real learning experience.

You know my father always said that there was more than one way to do everything ending up with the same results, I thoroughly agree what about all of you?

As I wander back and forth through all the interesting threads here on the Guild's site, and other types of media, one thing that I notice is the range of ideas developed through the ages to build timberframe structures, which after there is a covering applied looks quite similar, just the joining together of timbers, making up the upper plates in very long frames necessitated the development of good, better, best ideas, some maybe alittle on the exteme side

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NH

Hello NH,

Your entry from the other night, (#30075 - 12 January, 2013 01:56) was referencing the first of these two photo, correct?

If so, your description sounds plausible for reassembly, however without better photos I couldn't make any definitive observations or conclusion of a raising methodology past yours.

Is this a project you are working on, or just interested in?

Do you need to raise this frame?

Regards, jay

NH,

Your frame looks like this one...



The side walls went up first, then one end-wall, which included the tie-beam, and then by working from the first end-wall, the other tie-beams and interior posts were added, then the other end-wall and tie-beam.


Rooster

Hey Rooster,

I owe you and email...Any way, if you look closely at NH's photo and the one you provided, you will note that NH's frame has no interior posts. I agree with you, that I think the exterior walls go up first. Then I start having questions about the frame, which I can not clearly determine from the photo. Does the grid of ceiling girts have "lap joints," or "tusk tenon," on them, and the list of questions go on from there.

This raising would be challenging enough, that I wouldn't want any "lay folk," being involved around crucial areas of the frame's assembly. I believe this is one I would use a "scaffold raising," on. I would want just a few skilled timber wright-riggers that know how to climb well and can rig independently of each other at a relatively high standard, going slow and taking more time, especially if the assembly has "tusk tenon."

Regards, jay