Hey Jay, I think sometimes it's better to go easy on the judgmental critique and try to get to the questioners thinking and bias, there is a heavy demand for an answer behind MBE's question, in a very clueless bossmanish manner. My personal goal in posting here is to impart how to think about the problem at hand and not provide some pat answer. So it is up to MBE to think it through, because he controls the factual evidence, I literally know only what is provided. If MBE continues to insist that he is only concerned with the post between the brackets and the floor, then he, wittingly or not, is putting us on.