Thanks guys for the continous ideas. Mike, I am not sure what you meant that you built an a-frame to lift the logs. One thing I have not yet figured out how to do is to lift the logs or timbers to my desired work height and it sounds like you were able to hoist them up on to the cart somehow? Even with these arches that I spoke about I still could not get them to a higher level that I would need for layout, cutting joints, hewing,etc.... I have experimented with rolling logs up ramps, but that is very hard work and works better with at least two people. I am trying to brainstorm on building a portable hoist frame on wheels that I could wheel over the log or timber ends and hoist them up to the desired height or to get them on carts to move them. Ideally, this supposed hoist frame would hopefully be useful also with some of the raising, but I really dont know if it will even materialize. The point of the matter is that I dont spend a lot of my resources on logging tools as I will need to save resources for timber framing tools and materials for the frame I plan to build. tb