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#5672 09/10/06 02:29 PM
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ditto^3

Joe, I greatly admire your work. Seems to me you have the backbone of the descriptive geometry book focused to the framer. Hats off.

#5673 09/12/06 03:34 PM
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I'm glad that people find this useful. Many of the regulars on this forum are familiar with the principles behind cutting compound angles but for the sake of folks new to this:
Before we begin a layout with a framing square or start punching a formula from a book or the Internet into a calculator, it’s important to understand what we are trying to accomplish. An equation or calculation without reference to reality can be misleading - and expensive!
In all cases when measuring any dihedral angle, Backing angle or otherwise, the key idea is: cross section. Note the locations of the right angles in the triangles forming the tetrahedra … the geometry of any compound angle and a Hip roof is exactly the same. Study the diagrams in the links below, try cutting wooden models of the compound angles, and make 3D cardboard models by developing the angles.
If we look at a Hip roof, we see that the rise as fixed while the common run is stretched through the Plan angle or Deck angle (divided by sin Plan Angle).
In the case of the compound angle the rise shared by the Dihedral Angle (complementary to the Saw Blade Bevel) and the Angle on the Adjoining Face remains fixed. The run of the Dihedral Angle is drawn out through the Angle of Saw Travel angle (divided by sin Angle of Saw Travel), creating the run of the Angle on the Adjoining Face. This operation can be reversed; the run of the Angle on the Adjoining Face turned through the Angle of Saw Travel (multiplied by sin Angle of Saw Travel) thus forms the run of the Dihedral Angle created by the Saw Blade Bevel.
Here’s another thought: compound angle may be cut from either face of the stick. So who is to say which of the angles of the compound angle is the Angle of Saw Travel, and which is the Angle on the Adjoining Face? We can create an equally valid geometric model of the compound angle composed of a different arrangement of angles.
Combining this elementary concept with a bit of basic trigonometry we can easily deduce hundreds of formulas relating every angle in a complex Hip-Valley roof.

Development of Hip Roof
Development of Compound Angle
Compound Angle: Jack Rafter intersects Valley Rafter
Construction of the Backing Angle
Model of Backing Angle extracted from Regular Octogonal Gazebo

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