Posted By: Ron Mansour
vapor barrier placement withn a built-up enclosure - 02/01/08 12:26 AM
A sample enclosure that I am considering, all applied to exterior of frame: 2x6 t&g, rigid foam sheets, (EPS or urethane, don't know yet), 2x3 vertical strapping 16"oc, screwed through the foam to the t&g, 15lb felt as a drain plane, then clapboards, with end grain and backside sealed.
My questions are centered around vapor barrier placement/necessity, foam types, and breathable walls and roofs. Conventional building practice says "vapor barrier to warm side of wall". Warm side of the wall, when? In winter or summer? In my area of N.E. Ohio, we have summers with many 90 degree days, with matching humidity. The temp in an air conditioned house stays at 70 degrees. Winters are cold and dry. Again, temp stays at 70 degrees. So, the "warm side" of the wall in July is not the same "warm side" of the wall as in January. So, where does my vapor barrier go? And, depending what type of foam insulation I use, do I need one? Should internal and external water vapor be allowed to slowly diffuse through the walls via the use of permeable EPS?
Or does one use a closed cell foam, urethane, and expect that to function as your vapor barrier? Am I correct to think that vapor drive, (internal and external), is then stopped if I use urethane?....I know, lots of questions, but I'm wondering how some of you guys in climates similar to mine handle this situation. Oh, and in my sample enclosure, what about those screw punctures/vapor breaches, in my insulation? Thanks in advance for any and all input. Ron Mansour
My questions are centered around vapor barrier placement/necessity, foam types, and breathable walls and roofs. Conventional building practice says "vapor barrier to warm side of wall". Warm side of the wall, when? In winter or summer? In my area of N.E. Ohio, we have summers with many 90 degree days, with matching humidity. The temp in an air conditioned house stays at 70 degrees. Winters are cold and dry. Again, temp stays at 70 degrees. So, the "warm side" of the wall in July is not the same "warm side" of the wall as in January. So, where does my vapor barrier go? And, depending what type of foam insulation I use, do I need one? Should internal and external water vapor be allowed to slowly diffuse through the walls via the use of permeable EPS?
Or does one use a closed cell foam, urethane, and expect that to function as your vapor barrier? Am I correct to think that vapor drive, (internal and external), is then stopped if I use urethane?....I know, lots of questions, but I'm wondering how some of you guys in climates similar to mine handle this situation. Oh, and in my sample enclosure, what about those screw punctures/vapor breaches, in my insulation? Thanks in advance for any and all input. Ron Mansour