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Vandalism resistant designs

Posted By: Zach LaPerriere

Vandalism resistant designs - 07/28/07 05:56 AM

Anyone every put anything together in a dark part of the woods prone to vandalism?

About all I can think is to frame out of the hardest possible wood, but that's doesn't sound like much fun or good for anyone but the tropical hardwood companies.

Any experience or suggestion are much appreciated.

Best,

Zach
Posted By: toivo

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/28/07 02:00 PM

we built a lodge in osnaburg house, which is known as quite a sketchy, remote place. the locals had climbed up on the roof of the previous lodge, chopped through with a chainsaw, ransacked the place, then burnt it down. what we did was to put up a steep steel roof, placed rebar between the courses of logs, installed bolt through steel shutters on the windows, and put a safe room in the middle of the fortress. it was kind of a spooky job to be working on, considering that i was staying in a tent! just one run in with a bear though, but warded him off with a quick bit of axe throwing (missed).

how about a "beware of axe throwing" sign?
Posted By: Pegs 1

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/28/07 03:51 PM

ICF Concrete Walls ...jack the walls up to 1.5 story to make it hard to get on the roof....at least 12/12 steel roof
Posted By: Zach LaPerriere

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/30/07 03:57 AM

Awlright, I admit I didn't explain myself. Thanks for your replies nonetheless.

I see one of our newest member to the forum is WoodForBrains. That describes my first post all too well.

I'm wondering about resisting vandalism in something akin to a small open air pavillion on a small budget.

Any ideas?

Thanks again.

Zach




Posted By: Mark Davidson

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/30/07 10:39 AM

wood may not be your best choice.
Posted By: toivo

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/30/07 02:15 PM

if you can cut it, they probably can too. perhaps set a good example by carving your own little heart and love dedication on it- IDT.

that reminds me of the white otter castle reconstruction- loads of inscriptions removed from an historic and amazing building at great expense and effort, in some cases with disfigured faces removed from intact logs and replaced with epoxied-on slabs matched to fit. i wonder how that building is holding up.
Posted By: daiku

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/30/07 05:18 PM

The first thing that comes to mind is preventing some prankster from driving all the pegs out.
Posted By: Mark Davidson

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/30/07 10:40 PM

epoxy....
hmmmmmmm........... fire proof epoxy????
Posted By: Gabel

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 07/31/07 01:07 AM

hard to climb stone columns, perhaps

Posted By: Timber Goddess

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 08/02/07 09:10 PM

Posted By: Pegs 1

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 08/03/07 12:36 AM

Unless you are going to put steel bars over the windows....It really doesn't matter what else you do....

It never ceases to amaze me how much money customers are willing to spend to increase the "strength" and "security" of their homes.

At the end of the day....If you have windows....it really doesn't matter how much you spend on the front door....


We have cabin break-ins every winter in northern Minnesota....sometimes its just plain vandalism,,sometimes its theft....sometimes it both....the more remote the house is the better they like it...



Posted By: Zach LaPerriere

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 08/04/07 05:12 AM

Thanks everyone. That's pretty much what I was thinking, too. Couldn't I just post a sign such as: "No stinkers beyond this point" ?

Next thought: concrete. Something about rebar and form work I like. My dad likes painting. Everyone needs a character defect.

This is a fine forum. You folks make up for the kind who enjoy thievery.

Zach

Posted By: Jim Rogers

Re: Vandalism resistant designs - 08/04/07 04:45 PM

At a conference a while ago, they were talking about fire prevention at or on covered bridges. They now sell a wire that can be installed in the rafters or above the tie beam, out of sight of the bridge users or vandals.
When this wire gets hot, very low heat, it breaks or separates. This sets off the fire alarm.
Seemed like a good way to protect a structure from fire and not let the vandals disable it....
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