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windows and doors #11276 04/27/07 08:54 PM
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info needed on connecting doors/windows to framework and possible links to specialty hardware connections for this application. I'm building a t'frame with lots of glass.

Re: windows and doors [Re: joel scott] #11281 04/27/07 10:11 PM
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Hi Joel. I learned something cool today about doors. When you connect the studs surrounding the jamb and peg into beam, make sure you peg the tenon towards the jamb. Otherwise, if you pegged the tenon away from the jamb, the shrinkage could have effects on the side you do not want it to.

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Re: windows and doors [Re: mo] #11532 05/20/07 02:04 AM
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Thanks for the input mo, though I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. the frame I'm working on will have no siding, nor inside paneling. Just windows and sliding doors attatched to the frame, possibly via cutting out of the posts and headers and inserting more stable lumber to attatch the sliding doors to. I'm worried about shrinkage and movement.
thanks again,
joel

Re: windows and doors [Re: joel scott] #11547 05/21/07 12:01 PM
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Joel:
If the frame will have no siding why would you need a window?
What are the walls made off?
Jim Rogers


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Re: windows and doors [Re: Jim Rogers] #11564 05/22/07 12:44 AM
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Jim,
The frame is a "family room" which is connected to the rest of the house. The posts and beams will be exposed inside and out. Glass will be the infill, primarily. Some fixed glass and a number of sliding doors. These are being "let in" to the frame work by a series of routing and rabbetting. Essentially, this is a glass house with a timber framework.
joel scott

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What type of wood is the frame?
How dry is it?
It may continue to shrink for many years, and careful planning will be needed for inserting glass windows in frames.


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Re: windows and doors [Re: Jim Rogers] #11576 05/22/07 07:30 PM
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What shape is the plan of the room?

I would think Joel would need only the straightest of trees with absolutely no twist. Cut boxed heart and kiln dried. Then he would have to figure out how to seam the glass and the timber. I am only SPECULATING, what do you all think. This is interesting.

Maybe glu-lam is the way to go.?

Re: windows and doors [Re: mo] #11580 05/22/07 10:16 PM
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I think the brits set glazing into green oak, searched a bit but didn't quite find what I was looking for... here is a starting point:
http://www.carpenteroakandwoodland.com/blogs/2006/november/glazing-onto-green-timber-frames

Re: windows and doors [Re: Mark Davidson] #11583 05/23/07 12:24 AM
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The frame is of Cypress. Bone soaking wet, and big. Most timbers are either 8"x 12" or 12"X 12". Totally oversized and guaranteed to shrink and move. The room is (drum roll please), 30 feetx 80feet, two large dormers intersecting the frame in the center. One dormer creates a gable end, the other is a large bump-out porch (this one is filled in by conventional framing, then you walk into the porch). Where I mentioned rabbetting before, and "letting in", we're also applying a compressible(and later, expandable) gasket to help seal the perimeter's of the glazing. Fixed glass will be measured to each opening independently.
joel

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thanks for the website mark.
joel

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