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04/02/08 04:49 PM
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By the way, I think that generally a 2x6x4 tennon in an 8x8 is ok.
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 Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/02/08 10:44 PM
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Yes Brad you hit it on the head with your description. As far as using the mill to cut tenons goes, I cut them while the cant is still laying on the mill and make the Cheek cuts.(I think thats what there called?) with the mill. Then make the other 2 cuts with a circle saw, Very fast in my world. Oh, and BTW, scorecut, par and shoulder,.... are all new to me, LOL you all, gonna have to work with me on the termanoligy, I have been a crane operator for the last 30 years LOL. I am really tired of being bottled up in that crane day in and day out. I figure, I have the mill, a log supply, most all of the support equipment (A Good sized forklift). And I kinda like to think I'm not so thick between the ears that I can't learn how to do this kind of work. I do Enjoy it. Ok I'll shut up.
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 02:12 AM
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I would have put a tenon on the end of the post and the mortise in the "top plate". The way you are doing it the joint is in tension and relying on the pegs.
just my 2 cents
I cut it twice, and it's still too short!!
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 09:06 AM
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Wouldn't that make all the weight of the sign & cantaleverd Beam be hanging from the peg at the top of the post?
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 10:35 AM
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With a long sawmilled through tenon you may not even need the brace, but put one in for looks. Here is another term "reference face", When sawing the tenon put the ref. face down than make the cuts. Saw the shoulders first with the hand/skill saw. Then you won't have to back the blade out and risk pulling it off the wheels. In short the ref. face is the side you bace your lay out off. Tim
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 12:47 PM
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Woodbutcher: Here is a drawing showing some terms or labels: 
Whatever you do, have fun doing it!
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 02:34 PM
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I've never used a mill so I just pictured it like using a sledgehammer for a fly swatter. Maybe not, perhaps it's more like the bandsaw method in the "Braces" post.
Carlos, it's only hanging out there probably 4 feet or so, I don't think the pegs or tenon are in any danger of failure. The brace will be supporting most of the verticle. Also using the mortice and tenon would allow him to continue the post up for a finial or other embellishment. Plus I think it would look better.That's the way I would do a mailbox post too(and will in the future now that I know how to make a proper post with TF methods).
You are right in that it would be like a tie beam if you were actually building a hammer beam bent. So my analogy was a little misleading.
Brad
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04/03/08 09:30 PM
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Wow, You all sound sharp! I'm impresed. Thanks Jim Rogers for the help with pix, I love it, keep it coming. I'm gonna be here alot I can tell. Here's a question for you all. I am going to turn my own pegs on the lathe, what should I use, oak?
Hey there TIMBEAL your are very right about pulling the band off the mill, that makes a nasty sound don't it.
Hey brad_bb , I can just lay the timber on the mill at an angle with the far end sticking off the mill & clamp in place. Works like a charm.
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 10:37 PM
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Use a shaving horse and a draw knife and make your own, faster than a lath.....  Jim Rogers
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Re: Hello, New Member here
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04/03/08 10:50 PM
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Need more input Jim Rogers what is that 
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