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colar tie #14986 04/07/08 11:22 PM
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hello

I rebuilt an old corn barn this last summer. it was three bend so not very big. In the center bent I put a collar tie. I opened up the barn the other day and the collar tie was on the floor.

? is. What is out there to replace the collar tie with something in compression instead of in tension . but can only go rafter to rafter.

iamm thinking an X

have a good day
heath enright
pinegrovehewing co.


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Re: colar tie [Re: pinegrove] #14990 04/08/08 01:44 AM
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Hi Heath;

Collar beams are almost always in compression. If you can't spend time getting creative trying to put a collar in after-the-fact, maybe you will need to violate the frame with some nails!

Jim


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Re: colar tie [Re: Housewright] #15002 04/08/08 11:01 AM
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If the colar was on the floor, wa-hapen? Did the walls move out? Tim

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I was under the impression that collar ties don't hold the walls together, but instead serve to keep the rafters from sagging and thereby actually increase the possible wall spread. Is this right? Would someone educate me? Thanks in advance.

Re: colar tie [Re: DKR] #15019 04/09/08 01:15 PM
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My guess is that the collar tie was too low!! If it is at the top third like it should be it will be in compression!

Carlos


I cut it twice, and it's still too short!!
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Originally Posted By: CarlosCabanas
My guess is that the collar tie was too low!! If it is at the top third like it should be it will be in compression!

Carlos


Unless there is nothing else to tie the walls ...


Are there any tie beams in this building?

Re: colar tie [Re: Gabel] #15033 04/09/08 09:01 PM
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How could it fall out? How was it attached? Definitely need more infor for these guys. A picture is worth 1000 words.

Re: colar tie [Re: TIMBEAL] #15043 04/10/08 01:41 AM
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ill put some pic up thurday of the barn


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Re: colar tie [Re: pinegrove] #15075 04/11/08 08:57 PM
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We want pictures!! We want pictures!!


I cut it twice, and it's still too short!!
pic two of them [Re: CarlosCabanas] #15077 04/12/08 12:12 AM
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hear is a pic (you might have to turn your head)

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL399/10944455/19463401/312891204.jpg


heath enright
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