Boring Machine Restoration
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06/02/09 02:07 AM
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Colton Allen
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Hey all, I recently purchased an old Boring Machine on ebay, ( I believe it's a Snell) and I did a fairly thorough restoration of it. I thought some of you might be interested in the process. Here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/colton.allen/RestorationProject#Colton
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/02/09 11:55 AM
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Jim Rogers
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/02/09 12:16 PM
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Tom Cundiff
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Very Cool, Colton. Could you describe the rust removal process details, please.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
[Re: Joel McCarty]
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06/02/09 01:31 PM
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Another set of directions, has pictures and question & answers:
http://users.eastlink.ca/~pspencer/nsaeta/electrolysis.html#setup
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/02/09 01:39 PM
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Jim Rogers
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This is the method my friend uses to clean tools.
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06/02/09 04:52 PM
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TIMBEAL
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Patina..... it takes year to accumulate, then it's gone in moments.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/02/09 06:10 PM
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Colton Allen
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The great thing about using electrolysis to remove rust is that it doesn't remove the patina. i believe the way it works is.. Rust is Iron Oxide. Electrolysis separates the Oxide from the Iron. it will not harm any good metal in any way. There are many good write-ups on the internet about how to do it. just do a search for Rust Removal using Electrolysis. For safety reasons i will says this.
Do not use Stainless Steel Anodes. There is Chromium in stainless steel which will create Chromates in the solution and this will be very poisonous.
Do not us anything for the solution other than Sodium BiCarbonate(baking Soda) or Sodium Carbonite (Washing Soda) I couldn't find Washing Soda but OxyClean is almost the same thing and work great. I have read about other people using other stuff but upon research found that it was unsafe.Using Sodium Chloride (Table Salt)creates chlorine gas which is unsafe.
Do not do this indoors. This process creates hydrogen gas, which is harmless unless it condenses and ignites. Remember the Hindenburg?
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
[Re: Joel McCarty]
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06/02/09 06:20 PM
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Colton Allen
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Old Pal David Crocco taught many of us how to use a fish tank, some water, baking soda and a 12v battery charger to remove rust from timber framing tools. Anyone out there care to describe this process? http://www.wag-society.org/Electrolysis/rust_redct_elect_setup.php[color:#000000]This link recommends using stainless steel for anodes which is very unsafe. Colton[/color]
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
[Re: Colton Allen]
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06/02/09 08:44 PM
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Dave Shepard
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That's a Swan Premium machine. The regular Swans didn't pivot. Mine in pieces. I had to make a new base, it rocked like a rocking horse. Finished.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/03/09 01:12 AM
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Colton Allen
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Dave, the top of the main mechanism looks different on yours. Did Swan make some different designs?
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06/03/09 01:59 AM
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Dave Shepard
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I'm not sure. Perhaps it's a Snell carriage on a Swan frame? I don't know all the different models, but the castings for the pivoting parts look the same as mine. Mine works very well with a 1.5 bit, but the 2" twists the frame a little. Bit is sharp, but may need tweaking. Some day, I'd like to get a Boss with the two gear ratios.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/03/09 12:28 PM
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Tom Cundiff
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The one on the right is a Snell regular ( non tilting ) so I would assume that the machine that Dave shows is a Swan and the machine in Colton's pictures is a Snell. The tilting machine in my picture is an Ajax, the castings for the pivoting parts look very similar also.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/03/09 04:12 PM
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Jim Rogers
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Tom: Nice pictures where did you get them?
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06/03/09 07:44 PM
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Tom Cundiff
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The Antique Tool Collectors Guide to Value Click the book to Look Inside, the free look stops at Pg.6 and Pg. 7 is Augers & Boring Machines. it says the illustrations are taken from a 1903 catalog. If you type in "Boring Machine" in the Search Inside this book Box you can view Pg.7.
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration
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06/04/09 02:40 AM
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Jim Rogers
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I just bought a copy of that book.... thanks for the tip....
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