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Boring Machine Restoration #20064 06/02/09 02:07 AM
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Hey all, I recently purchased an old Boring Machine on ebay,
( I believe it's a Snell) and I did a fairly thorough restoration of it.
I thought some of you might be interested in the process.
Here is the link:
http://picasaweb.google.com/colton.allen/RestorationProject#

Colton

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Nice job....


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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Colton Allen] #20068 06/02/09 12:16 PM
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Very Cool, Colton. Could you describe the rust removal process details, please.


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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Tom Cundiff] #20069 06/02/09 12:33 PM
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Old Pal David Crocco taught many of us how to use a fish tank, some water, baking soda and a 12v battery charger to remove rust from timber framing tools.

Anyone out there care to describe this process?

http://www.wag-society.org/Electrolysis/rust_redct_elect_setup.php




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Another set of directions, has pictures and question & answers:

http://users.eastlink.ca/~pspencer/nsaeta/electrolysis.html#setup


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This is the method my friend uses to clean tools.


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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Jim Rogers] #20076 06/02/09 04:52 PM
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Patina..... it takes year to accumulate, then it's gone in moments.

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The great thing about using electrolysis to remove rust is that it doesn't remove the patina. i believe the way it works is..
Rust is Iron Oxide. Electrolysis separates the Oxide from the Iron. it will not harm any good metal in any way.
There are many good write-ups on the internet about how to do it. just do a search for Rust Removal using Electrolysis.
For safety reasons i will says this.

Do not use Stainless Steel Anodes. There is Chromium in stainless steel which will create Chromates in the solution and this will be very poisonous.

Do not us anything for the solution other than Sodium BiCarbonate(baking Soda) or Sodium Carbonite (Washing Soda)
I couldn't find Washing Soda but OxyClean is almost the same thing and work great.
I have read about other people using other stuff but upon research found that it was unsafe.Using Sodium Chloride (Table Salt)creates chlorine gas which is unsafe.

Do not do this indoors. This process creates hydrogen gas, which is harmless unless it condenses and ignites.
Remember the Hindenburg?



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Originally Posted By: Joel McCarty
Old Pal David Crocco taught many of us how to use a fish tank, some water, baking soda and a 12v battery charger to remove rust from timber framing tools.

Anyone out there care to describe this process?

http://www.wag-society.org/Electrolysis/rust_redct_elect_setup.php

[color:#000000]This link recommends using stainless steel for anodes which is very unsafe.

Colton
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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Colton Allen] #20083 06/02/09 08:44 PM
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That's a Swan Premium machine. The regular Swans didn't pivot.

Mine in pieces. I had to make a new base, it rocked like a rocking horse.



Finished.




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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Dave Shepard] #20086 06/03/09 01:12 AM
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Dave, the top of the main mechanism looks different on yours.
Did Swan make some different designs?

Colton

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I'm not sure. Perhaps it's a Snell carriage on a Swan frame? I don't know all the different models, but the castings for the pivoting parts look the same as mine. Mine works very well with a 1.5 bit, but the 2" twists the frame a little. Bit is sharp, but may need tweaking. Some day, I'd like to get a Boss with the two gear ratios.


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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Dave Shepard] #20092 06/03/09 12:28 PM
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The one on the right is a Snell regular ( non tilting ) so I would assume that the machine that Dave shows is a Swan and the machine in Colton's pictures is a Snell. The tilting machine in my picture is an Ajax, the castings for the pivoting parts look very similar also.



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Tom:
Nice pictures where did you get them?

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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Jim Rogers] #20099 06/03/09 07:44 PM
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The Antique Tool Collectors Guide to Value Click the book to Look Inside, the free look stops at Pg.6 and Pg. 7 is Augers & Boring Machines. it says the illustrations are taken from a 1903 catalog.

If you type in "Boring Machine" in the Search Inside this book Box you can view Pg.7.


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Re: Boring Machine Restoration [Re: Tom Cundiff] #20109 06/04/09 02:40 AM
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I just bought a copy of that book.... thanks for the tip....


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