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What's in a word #21313 10/11/09 09:11 AM
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Hi,

Following the posts made recently on the "Tie Beam Break" thread in the "Engineering" forum I thought that it might be worth exploring what we actually mean by the following words and indeed can these be placed into any kind of preference order in respect of work to be done to old buildings :-

Conservation, Preservation, Restoration, Refurbishment, Repair, Replacement, Salvage, Reuse, Conversion, Change, Alter.

Are there any other buzz words used in this arena ?


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Ken Hume

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Re: What's in a word [Re: Ken Hume] #21314 10/11/09 10:42 AM
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Stabilization comes to mind, I think that fits in well. It depends on the term or length in which one keeps the stabilization in place.

On the lighter side: fudge and muck it up.

Tim

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Each of those has a certain $$$$ stigma / cachet attached to it. The first 2-3 words usually mean $$$$$$$ while the last one usually means $.


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Re: What's in a word [Re: bmike] #21316 10/11/09 01:47 PM
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To me it doesn't matter so much what you do or what word you use to describe what you are doing so long as it doesn't include words like: Raze, demolish, burn, nail, 2x4, and most of all the word "Code". Isn't that an ugly word? Or is it just me?

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Re: What's in a word [Re: Thane O'Dell] #21317 10/11/09 02:40 PM
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Hi Thane,

I think that one of your words fits nicely into the sequence :-

Conservation, Preservation, Restoration, Refurbishment, Repair, Replacement, Delapidate, Demolish, Salvage, Reuse, Conversion, Change, Alter

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Ken Hume


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Re: What's in a word [Re: Ken Hume] #21318 10/11/09 04:14 PM
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Ken,
I guess I missed the point of your original post and veered off on a tangent. I see now that this a lesson in english grammer... something I never exceled at in school.
Hey Ken you forgot the simplest, most common word: "Fix". Yeh, I got one.(clapping)
Sorry Ken. I couldn't help myself.


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Adaptive reuse is one buzzword I've worked under. It was in response to what a friend refers to as a remuddle.

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Hi Thane & Don,

The list is now revised to include your suggestions :-

Conservation, Preservation, Restoration, Refurbishment, Repair (Fix), Replacement, Delapidate, Demolish, Salvage, Reuse, Conversion (Adaptive Reuse), Change, Alter.

I think that we must recognise that there are bound to be slight differences in interpretation or understanding of the meaning of US / UK terminology.

Can we now have a go at defining what these words mean ? This is not a grammer lesson but more an attempt at defining legitimate approaches that could be employed with buildings under differing circumstances.

e.g.

"Preservation" - works aimed at stabilising the current condition of a building without making fundamental improvement changes to same.

"Restoration" - works aimed at taking a building back to a previously known condition generally at a recognised period in time. Could imply removal or reversal of later alterations and additions.

Agree / disagree ?

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Ken Hume




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Ken Hume




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Is Preservation engineered stabilization where any thing goes as long as you keep the original fabric as is. Modern floor joist with hangers along side weakened, dilapidated floor joist.

While you may restore a barn you disassembled and replace whole pieces with new stock using similar technology to remake the offending pieces.

I think that is similar to what Ken said, so I would agree.

I can see cases where you would want to do one or the other or a bit of both.

Tim

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