Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Bug in Sketchup 7.1 #21634 10/31/09 05:58 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
daiku Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
This is a confirmed bug that showed up in SU 7.1, but was not present in 7.0. If you have overlapping components, and are editing one of them, you cannot scribe to the line where they intersect. The inference engine will not find that intersection. I use this trick all the time, so I had to back off to version 7.0. It's really too bad, as 7.1 was a lot faster, and you'll notice the slowdown if you back down to 7.0. They promise to fix it in the next release.

You can get the old version here. Make sure you uninstall 7.1 first. CB.


--
Clark Bremer
Minneapolis
Proud Member of the TFG
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: daiku] #21638 11/01/09 08:47 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 286
Raphael D. Swift Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 286
Thanks for the heads up, I'm not using SketchUp yet but am in the process of getting a new workstation (or maybe a 'throw away PC') that can run it. I wish they were a bit more verbose in that help section...

A statement like, "At this time, SketchUp doesn't support operation in a VMWare environment.", could really mean just about anything. I'm guessing it means 'we haven't taken the time to find out how or if it works'.


Raphael D. Swift
DBA: DreamScapes
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: Raphael D. Swift] #21655 11/02/09 01:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
daiku Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
Why VMWare? Why not run it native on the MAC? CB.


--
Clark Bremer
Minneapolis
Proud Member of the TFG
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: daiku] #21657 11/02/09 03:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
B
bmike Offline
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
I think he's running a Linux box, or some non giganto corporation OS.


Mike Beganyi Design and Consulting, LLC.
www.mikebeganyi.com
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: bmike] #21658 11/02/09 06:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
daiku Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
I've heard of folks being successful running SU on WINE on Linux machines.


--
Clark Bremer
Minneapolis
Proud Member of the TFG
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: daiku] #21663 11/03/09 12:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
B
bmike Offline
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
Originally Posted By: daiku
This is a confirmed bug that showed up in SU 7.1, but was not present in 7.0. If you have overlapping components, and are editing one of them, you cannot scribe to the line where they intersect. The inference engine will not find that intersection. I use this trick all the time, so I had to back off to version 7.0. It's really too bad, as 7.1 was a lot faster, and you'll notice the slowdown if you back down to 7.0. They promise to fix it in the next release.

You can get the old version here. Make sure you uninstall 7.1 first. CB.


I found that if you use the shift key to lock a reference to a line it will pick up the intersection with a plane. Seems to work fine in Xray or Solid view.


Mike Beganyi Design and Consulting, LLC.
www.mikebeganyi.com
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: bmike] #21665 11/03/09 01:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,124
M
Mark Davidson Offline
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,124
Thanks CB for confirming that bug and helping me feel a bit less crazy, I also use the overlap to scribe stuff and now it is a lot slower.... must try throwing in the shift key to see what happens.

Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: Mark Davidson] #21666 11/03/09 02:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
daiku Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
The shift key trick is not working for me, Mike. How are you doing it, exactly? CB.


--
Clark Bremer
Minneapolis
Proud Member of the TFG
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: daiku] #21667 11/03/09 02:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
B
bmike Offline
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 918
Originally Posted By: daiku
The shift key trick is not working for me, Mike. How are you doing it, exactly? CB.




I create 2 components.

Overlap the components.

Works when editing a component or tracing over the intersection of 2 components.

1: Double click the component you wish to add tracings to.

2: Grab the pencil tool.

3: Find a point I would like to start tracing.

4: Hover over a line near that point, it will snap to the line.

5: Hold down the shift key, it will now lock you on the line.

6: Slide along until it 'intersects with plane'.

7. Click to draw first point.

8. Locate next 'intersection', find a line nearby, hover over line and press shift.

9. Repeat





YouTube was just uploaded... give it time to process...

Last edited by bmike; 11/03/09 02:53 PM.

Mike Beganyi Design and Consulting, LLC.
www.mikebeganyi.com
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: bmike] #21671 11/03/09 05:19 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 286
Raphael D. Swift Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 286
My old MAC LC isn't going to cut it when it comes to SketchUp laugh it does have a nice (greyscale) Raster Ops layout monitor so if it did I could design windmills and towers. MAC system 7.5 and Win98se (final beta) are about as far as I really went with the mainstream desktop OSes. Somewhere I have an OEM copy of win2k pro server that never got installed... smirk

I've been doing a little research and in general it looks like people are having better results w/SketchUp on a vmware virtual PC than under wine. Of course there are a few hurdles and pitfalls to get it loaded properly.

I've been B'day shopping at thinkmate for a new workstation, it's a truly dangerous occupation. First system I configured came in well over $5k wink Dual Quads Baby!!! laugh


Raphael D. Swift
DBA: DreamScapes
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: Raphael D. Swift] #21674 11/04/09 12:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 73
Chuck Gailey Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 73
I have had good success by hotkeying a shortcut for x-ray mode.

Move the curser to where you wish to inference and hit the hotkey.

You can still see where the line intersects the plane.

So far, the inference engine picks this point out and gives the intersection snap (little red X) pretty much every time.

Kind of lame it takes switching x-ray on and off, but, at least it is an acknowledged bug and well get addressed soon.

Cheers, Chuck


www.otbdesignworks.com


Become a fan of OTB Designworks on Facebook, we'd love to have you
Re: Bug in Sketchup 7.1 [Re: Chuck Gailey] #21798 11/20/09 03:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
daiku Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 895
Google has released an update that fixes this problem. Just choose "help|check for update" from the main menu. CB.


--
Clark Bremer
Minneapolis
Proud Member of the TFG
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Jim Rogers, mdfinc, Paul Freeman 

Newest Members
Bradyhas1, cpgoody, James_Fargeaux, HFT, Wrongthinker
5137 Registered Users
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 5.4.45 Page Time: 0.141s Queries: 15 (0.051s) Memory: 3.2361 MB (Peak: 3.5815 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-04-27 18:16:38 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS