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Oldest barn in Ontario #21719 11/09/09 11:14 PM
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I found this while surfing the net the other night.
You American folks should find this interesting considering the roots of this family.

Oldest barn in Ontario

I think I should like a tour of this place sometime. It's only two hours from me.

It would be interesting to see if this barn was built by Scribe Rule or Square Rule.


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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: Thane O'Dell] #21725 11/10/09 05:25 PM
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That's a very interesting and extensive web site. It illuminates much regarding the questions of culture/ethnicity in your earlier thread about the gambrel plank barn you poked around in earlier.

Pennsylvania, ay? Guess that better defines the immigrant base and crosses off English tying joints (or does it?).

The Schmidt-Dalziel Barn looks like a log building, primarily, which would indicate scribe techniques. It would be interesting to get a peek at the roof framing for more supporting details of scribe. The site says it's the oldest Pennsylvania barn in Canada, never mind Ontario...very cool...

I hadn't realized, but a good number of forum regulars are from Ontario. Some poking around here in the "earliest square rule thread" lead me to a long-ago post by Mark Davidson where he said scribed frames are not found in his area.

Either the Schmidt-Dalziel Barn is an anomaly, or other scribed buildings have simply deteriorated and vanished w/ the passage of time. Ontario looks like a big place. This Schmidt-Dalziel Barn is right outside Toronto, which was likely settled far before the more remote regions. Perhaps this is the area one would find scribed frames...

Nice thread; as is typical, more answers bring more questions.



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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: OurBarns1] #21726 11/10/09 06:09 PM
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I would have thought that Quebec would have the oldest barn in canada since it was settled probably 100 years before Ontario.


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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: Thane O'Dell] #21727 11/10/09 07:26 PM
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I think we have enough members to form a TFG Ontario chapter grin maybe we have enough members for a gtg at the village, u know, to "pick apart" the barn..more eyes the better IMO... lol
Living in Toronto for close to 20 years, it's funny how when visiting this place on school fieldtrips years ago, I had no real interest in the buildings or style of life in the village. Now, many moons later, I'm after that life grin
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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: frwinks] #21729 11/10/09 08:18 PM
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This would be a great field trip!
Finally, I would get to meet another Timber Framer.


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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: Thane O'Dell] #21745 11/12/09 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Thane O'Dell
I would have thought that Quebec would have the oldest barn in canada since it was settled probably 100 years before Ontario.


I think the key word in the phrase is "Pennsylvania"... They say the Schmidt-Dalziel Barn is the oldest Pennsylvania (German)-style barn in Canada.

Quebec was settled by the French, so it's kind of apples to oranges.



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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: OurBarns1] #21747 11/12/09 05:12 PM
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Don,
My family name immigrated from the New York area into Lower Canada(Quebec)(Odelltown) somewhere in the 18th century. It is posible that some Penneylvania Germans also settled into Quebec much earlier than 1809.
Check out this link
Americans head north


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Re: Oldest barn in Ontario [Re: Thane O'Dell] #21753 11/13/09 01:57 PM
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I'd be curious to hear Richard (aka Northern Hewer) Cassleman's thoughts on this. He's a retired curator of Upper Canada Village, and is an expert on the historical timber frames of Ontario. CB.


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Ontario Chapter? I'm in. And yes,, I've seen this barn in a book, and guess I didn't register it was at black creek. A rendevous should happen.


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I'm not sure but from the web site I think maybe the barn may be off limits right now due to restoration. I will have another look to see if this is so.

Thane


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