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#22170 - 01/06/10 11:44 AM REMOTE system
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I haven't seen this system discussed on here before. It seems like a much more user friendly (and perhaps more efficient) than SIPS and a good fit for TF.
CCHRC has done a great job on putting a lot of info/details into this doc...worth a read cool

http://sustainable.cchrc.org/docs/REMOTE_Manual.pdf


Edited by frwinks (01/06/10 11:45 AM)
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#22172 - 01/06/10 05:02 PM Re: REMOTE system [Re: frwinks]
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It look to be a well presented form of "wrap and strap". I use a very similar method on most of the building I do which need insulating.

I am working on one now with 2" thick vertical planks as the interior and screw base. It is a plank house with almost no post or braces. Geometrically designed as well, a two daisy wheel kissing base.

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#22188 - 01/08/10 12:18 PM Re: REMOTE system [Re: TIMBEAL]
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Hope you can post some pics Tim...sounds verrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting cool

back to the REMOTE...after an initial call to the building dept... looks like it's going to be a fun ride trying to get this approved :whistle same 'ol story... if it's too efficient... it gets the official axe
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#24616 - 10/18/10 02:28 PM Re: REMOTE system [Re: frwinks]
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Here it is....a slightly modified version of the REMOTE for TF.
-2x4 curtain walls, screwed to the frame with 6" panel screws,
-layer of 3.5" IKO Enerfoil (seams acoustisealed and taped),
-second layer of 2" IKO Enerfoil (seams taped),
-1x4 rough pine strapping
-siding.

The roof
-random 1x pine roof decking,
-two 4" layers of Dow Deckmate (seams taped),
-typar,
-vertical layer of 2x4's (on flat) screwed into 4x10 dougfir rafters with 12" panel screws
-horizontal layer of 2x4's (on flat) toenailed to first layer and screwed around perimiter with 14" panel screws,
-steel roof.
I omited the structural wall sheathing and VB as the construction and materials I chose in this case permited to do so.
Defenitely not SIPS fast, but for the price/performace this system offers, there isn't anything that can match it IMO.
Since the system is "too far" out there (I was told) and not covered in "the" book, it was easier to have the idea stamped by PEng. and carry on with life grin




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#24618 - 10/18/10 07:47 PM Re: REMOTE system
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Frwinks,

First off nice building. Congrats. It must be nice to know you're dried in for the winter. How does the remote wall terminate at the foundation? Did you pour an extra thick wall or does the wall overhang the foundation? I'm currently in the beginning stages of planning a Barn with a In-Law apartment above and would like to not use Sips. This system might be the ticket. How were the costs compared to Sips? And, should I start talking with my Local Building inspector now?

Good luck with the rest of the project.

Dan

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#24665 - 10/27/10 01:35 PM Re: REMOTE system
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thanks Dan.
In my case, the foundation wall was already there, the tiberframe was designed around the existing footprint. Portion of the curtain wall/foam/strapping/siding all overhang the foundation, about 9". I wrapped the entire foundation with 4" R20 of XPS, which reduced it down to about 5" overhang.
I recommend getting the PEng. stamp for a project like this. What they say goes, they're above the law smile It'll make the journey much more enjoyable.. lol
The quote I got for roof Sips alone was over 20K, I don't think I have half of that in roof/walls/floor foam.
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#24676 - 10/29/10 11:13 PM Re: REMOTE system
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This system is wicked Raff. Thanks for posting the details. You've got a solid thick layer of COZY!

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#24916 - 12/21/10 04:27 PM Re: REMOTE system
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Registered: 11/26/10
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That's a great looking frame.
I'm new at this and was wondering what PEng stood for.
Thanks
Rusty

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#24921 - 12/22/10 10:20 AM Re: REMOTE system [Re: Addicted]
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thanks Rusty, sure is diferent from what the TF eyes are used to grin
PEng = Professional Engineer in this case structural Peng.
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#24923 - 12/22/10 12:58 PM Re: REMOTE system
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I downloaded the manual for the REMOTE system and am very interested in the method as I've been looking for a suitable alternative to SIPS - a method that can be site-built where labor is cheap (mine) and pockets aren't deep. Any info on the relative cost of REMOTE vs SIP?
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