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Re: windows and doors [Re: joel scott] #11663 05/27/07 12:09 AM
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Anyone have any pointers for suspension hardware which allows for some settling or shrinking of timbers with which I could fasten doors to a frame?

Re: windows and doors [Re: joel scott] #11684 05/30/07 10:55 AM
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do not know of any hardware but if you foam the door in place it would allow for shrinkage and the foam is strong enough to hold the frame in place. Done it many times.

Re: windows and doors [Re: E.H.Carpentry] #11686 05/30/07 04:01 PM
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blowfoam rules!!!!!

Re: windows and doors [Re: Mark Davidson] #17723 01/21/09 03:41 PM
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just wanted to bump this topic back up and see if anyone has tried direct glazing. I like the idea of frame glazing and would like to hear from those who have done it. Afterall, what better way to frame a pc of glass than to timberframe it smile





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Re: windows and doors [Re: frwinks] #17726 01/21/09 07:14 PM
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That's really similar to a detail from Rupert Newman's book Oak Framed Buildings. Is that where you got that?

I would feel pretty comfortable using a system like that. The systems where the actual frame is exposed inside and out are not a good idea in my opinion.

Re: windows and doors [Re: Gabel] #17730 01/21/09 09:34 PM
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I agree, the glass on the outside is the way to go, just like in the pic (courtesy of www.timberstructures.net ).
I think this is a great technique and would love to learn more about it.

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Re: windows and doors [Re: frwinks] #17765 01/23/09 12:04 AM
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hey frwinks, i like that frame below your name. Do you have a bigger image?

I noticed your image in your last post has "green oak timber". thinking about what it will do leaving gaps and such due to shrinkage of the post. Is the air dried board to prevent the connections from turning into a sieve? I wonder if a relieving groove would help somehow?

Re: windows and doors [Re: mo] #17782 01/23/09 03:29 PM
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mo, thanks for your reply wink The pic of direct glazing is taken from the only site I found so far on this topic. I'm hoping someone who's done it may offer more info on the shrinkage/checking issue as well as construction and sealing. I'm sure there's more to it than the pic shows.
Gabel, you mentioned Rupert Newman's book Oak Framed Buildings. Would you recommend picking it up to learn more about direct glazing?

As for the frame, it's a Mark Davidson cool
It'll be mostly pine with a mix of hemlock, oak and doug fir.



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Re: windows and doors [Re: frwinks] #17786 01/23/09 06:21 PM
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Rupert's book is definitely worth picking up if you are at all interested in English timber framing, scribing, direct glazing, or a number of other topics. you can get it directly from him at his site (google Westwind Oak) or on Amazon.


Re: windows and doors [Re: Gabel] #22302 01/20/10 07:54 PM
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still haven't picked up Rupert's book, but found enough info and detail drawings in Tedd's book to get me going on this....
page 198...
http://books.google.ca/books?id=AX9nvlKG...;q=&f=false


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