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Re: Hip roof design #24223 08/19/10 10:03 PM
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Paul, thanks for response.
The corner crossing ties are 8x10 and resting on the posts.


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Re: Hip roof design #24226 08/20/10 01:46 AM
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Thane - I think the posts should move closer to the corners, and the plates will need to go up in size. Those braces need to get out near the corners. Lots of shear going on in those plates that are cantilevered. That corner joint will be interesting!


I would definitely get an engineer involved when the client says 'Go'.

Shear plane in the roof will help hold things together - but if there are no walls, uplift will still be a concern.

Another option would be to add a center post on each wall and make your trusses span from center to center (getting them into the plane of the roof and out of the corners). Then your truss bearing locations will be over posts, and your hips will drop into corners. With this method the corners only need to hold up the end of the hips (and their distributed load).


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Re: Hip roof design [Re: Thane O'Dell] #24268 08/23/10 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Thane O'Dell
Does anyone supply Adze handles? I have a good head for one which I have never used.
Thane


Thane: we've got handles for sale, drop me an email for details and photos.
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Re: Hip roof design #24269 08/23/10 04:19 PM
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Thanks Jim but I made an Adze handle yesterday.
Now I need to learn how to use it.

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Re: Hip roof design #24270 08/23/10 05:32 PM
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Wow, people sure can come up with some great things if they put their heads together and help each other out!


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Re: Hip roof design [Re: Thane O'Dell] #24274 08/24/10 02:29 AM
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Looks like you already designed the jacks with a clip. Here are some pictures of the same situation. A little bit different with two different slopes intersecting at the hip (offset backing cut (image 2)) and no overhang. Other than that they could look a lot like these at the top. Drop em in and screw em.






Re: Hip roof design [Re: Thane O'Dell] #24288 08/24/10 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Thane O'Dell
Thanks Jim but I made an Adze handle yesterday.
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Re: Hip roof design #24540 10/04/10 04:20 PM
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All is good! Client approved, Engineer approved(beefed up the corner crossing Ties and added steel strapping around the corners of the plates.)
Now just have to round up a few timbers... and a bunch of whittling.
Thane


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Re: Hip roof design [Re: Thane O'Dell] #24581 10/09/10 08:48 PM
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Picked up some White Oak this week for braces.
Thought I would show my progress of making curved braces for my first time.
Stock size of brace is 4x8x60 for a 36" brace.

Step one: Planning.


Step 2 & 3: Layout & score. Yup... a chainsaw.




Step 4: Adze work


Step 5: Tenons and finishing touches.


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Re: Hip roof design #24615 10/18/10 05:30 PM
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they look great Thane.. great looking timber cart btw.

where in ontario are you? Do you have good supply on white oak? I'm looking for some 4x6's, no white oak around my neck of the woods..


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