Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
cedar timbers #24349 09/04/10 02:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
G
glane Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
G
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
I have just taken down to sheds that were both about 20' X 16' and discovered the posts and beams to be cedar. What can I use this wood for IF I decide to cut it up? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Re: cedar timbers #24350 09/04/10 02:57 AM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 235
Thane O'Dell Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 235
Hmmm... a sauna, a deck, Adirondack chairs, a lot of arrows or some kindling perhaps.


Life is short so put your heart into something that will last a long time.
Re: cedar timbers #24351 09/04/10 03:13 AM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
D L Bahler Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
Most ceder is good for exterior applications, so about anything that you would like to have outside.

Or you can make ceder chests to use for storing blankets, quilts, or anything you don't want moths to get at (or most other bugs or that matter)


Was de eine ilüchtet isch für angeri villech nid so klar.
http://riegelbau.wordpress.com/
Re: cedar timbers #24353 09/04/10 10:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,882
T
TIMBEAL Offline
Member
Offline
Member
T
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,882
I don't usually see cedar used in older timber frames. What are the dimensions of the timber and how are they configured? What make is the cedar? What part of the country are you in?

Tim

Re: cedar timbers #24354 09/04/10 07:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
G
glane Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
G
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
The timbers are western red I believe and are about 8X8 square. I'm not entirely sure that they are western red so any help identifying them would be appreciated. The sheds were just an hour north east of Toronto, Ontario, meaning that they must have been shipped here if they are indeed western red.

Re: cedar timbers #24355 09/04/10 07:43 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
D L Bahler Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
How do they smell?

Could they perhaps be Eastern Redceder? That is actually a juniper and not a true ceder, but is commonly called ceder. It is marketed as 'aromatic ceder' It is very light and straight grained with a deep reddish brown color.

From Wikipedia, about its uses:

The fine-grained, soft brittle pinkish- to brownish-red heartwood is fragrant, very light and very durable, even in contact with soil. Because of its rot resistance, the wood is used for fence posts. The aromatic wood is avoided by moths, so it is in demand as lining for clothes chests and closets, often referred to as cedar closets and cedar chests. If correctly prepared, it makes excellent English longbows, flatbows, and Native American sinew-backed bows. The wood is marketed as "eastern redcedar" or 'aromatic cedar'.

Also from Wikipedia, the natural range:


and the appearance of the wood (wikipedia again):


Was de eine ilüchtet isch für angeri villech nid so klar.
http://riegelbau.wordpress.com/
Re: cedar timbers #24356 09/04/10 09:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 306
C
Cecile en Don Wa Offline
Member
Offline
Member
C
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 306
Hi,
I just happen to be hewing, over the last few days, a beam from a western red cedar stem - 9 meters long, cuttin' it down for a solid wood rain gutter. You'll see it if you have a look there at m' last posting under the hewing topic and the trouble it has been giving.

Greetings

Don Wagstaff

Re: cedar timbers #24358 09/05/10 01:37 AM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
D L Bahler Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
You can get western red cedar in the Netherlands? Is it introduced there, or do you have to import it?

Also, I just realized I misspelled cedar in my last post, oops.


Was de eine ilüchtet isch für angeri villech nid so klar.
http://riegelbau.wordpress.com/
Re: cedar timbers #24359 09/05/10 06:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
G
glane Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
G
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 7
In the event that I don't mill the beams, how should I go about preparing them for reuse? I have heard that I should pressure wash the wood and then add an insecticide. Any comments on that. Thanks again for all the previous info, I'm new at all this but am really enjoying it. As you can imagine, there isn't much timber framing happening in Toronto!

Re: cedar timbers #24362 09/05/10 08:04 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
D L Bahler Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 946
Well if it's eastern redcedar, insecticide is unnecessary.

Also, I am not a fan of treating wood with harsh chemicals, a better way in my opinion would be to kill any bugs that my be present with heat. Heat the wood up to over 140 degrees (fahrenheit) and hold it there for at least 3 hours, no bugs will survive. That is a common practice for kiln drying lumber that might be infected with insects (like powder post beetles for example) and if you have very much wood to do, it's cheaper than insecticide and far more effective.

Good luck on your venture, whatever they may be! I'm always a big fan of not letting things go to waste, must be from the Swiss or something...


Was de eine ilüchtet isch für angeri villech nid so klar.
http://riegelbau.wordpress.com/
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Jim Rogers, mdfinc 

Newest Members
Bradyhas1, cpgoody, James_Fargeaux, HFT, Wrongthinker
5137 Registered Users
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 5.4.45 Page Time: 0.028s Queries: 15 (0.009s) Memory: 3.2159 MB (Peak: 3.3998 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-19 06:20:10 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS