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Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT [Re: CHB] #23972 06/29/10 02:06 PM
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building views here:
Guilford meeting house

interior


Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT [Re: CHB] #23973 06/29/10 02:32 PM
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The big soild swept braces below the Ties / Bottom Chords / ceiling (seen from the Nave)

Sorry about the Techno-jargon, it's both part of who I am, and often the best way to be descriptive - We had a wiki / glossary, you could have referred to but is has been temporarily (hopefully, as I like a number of others, have some time in it) taken off line.


Scantling
[skant-ling]
–noun
1.a timber of relatively slight width and thickness, as a stud or rafter in a house frame.
2.such timbers collectively.
3.the width and thickness of a timber.
4.the dimensions of a building stone.
5.nautical .
a.a dressed timber or rolled metal member used as a framing member in a vessel.
b.the dimension, in cross section, of a framing member.
6.a small quantity or amount.
Origin:
1520–30; scant + -ling1 ; r. ME scantilon < OF escantillon gauge

Definition 3 as I used it upthread, though it's commonly used in timber-speak as either 1,3 or 6

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Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT [Re: Will Truax] #23974 06/29/10 02:47 PM
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No apologies necessary - this is not my field - just dating the buildings from the wood is my area. Maybe I can get my nephew to chime in as he knows more about the practical aspects and terminology. I found a pretty good set of usages here:

http://www.wordnik.com/words/scantling/examples

As for your question - there is no bracing below the trusses - none what so ever. There is a plaster cove supported by board scrap nailed however with split-board lath - that is what I tried to show in the drawing.

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Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT #23975 06/29/10 03:14 PM
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So there is a vault in the Nave...

A bit of weight those trusses are holding up !

Though it seems more than probable that buried in there are some structural braces that both help form that vault and brace the bents.


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Could the "kingpost" be there to try and inhibit the top chord from buckling under severe compression?

Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT [Re: Will Truax] #23977 06/29/10 08:39 PM
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I am sure there are braces at the building corners Will. However the lath is all exposed below the ceiling joists and the vaulted plaster ceiling appears to be supported by 1" board scrap that is nailed together to form an arch and fixed to the truss and wall framing with the lath nailed to it from below. The 'gunstock' portion of the posts has been chopped away where it interfered with the arch.

Re: question about queen post truss, southern VT [Re: CHB] #23988 06/30/10 09:21 PM
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Here are a couple of updated sketches of the framing from my notes:

as originally framed in 1788 as best could be determined

1837 plan. The basic layout of the trusses and rafters didn't change.

If I knew a little more about framing my notes and the drawings would benefit. Every time I have visited this structure I have been impressed by the artistry of the original builders. The hewing work seems exceptionally fine to me - and of course the timbers they had to work with are quite impressive in themselves.

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I am interested in possibly purchasing this land and house. DOes ANYONE know where the accurate CAD drawings are of it??? I have searched multiple data bases with no luck and thank you. STARFIRE

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