Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/22/11 04:32 AM
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I've never used a Norwood LM410. But, I have put some thought about it. Woodmizer makes one in europe too. Right now though all my carpentry tools must fit in a 4x8x3 storage room when not in use. That would not fit. Flattening the timber is much easier with the 12 inch planer. With a couple of site built rails, and a jig on my planer, I think I can simulate, the Norwood planer.
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/22/11 02:36 PM
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You are correct Gumphri, Woodmizer has one in Europe, but is not available in the US. The Norwood looks like a good machine and it's advantage is a very stable platform and much more power and speed and convenience than a hand held unit in a fixture. It can be used on a Woodmizer mill or almost any 2 rail mill. If you have a 2 rail mill, it's a great addition which would definitely give you an advantage at the shop or on the job site. If you have only one timber to try and true up, you can use the hand held and mess around with it. But if you have a number of them to do, The Norwood would help you do it in short order, with great accuracy. It would be nice to have true reference faces at a right angle to each other when you are square ruling. You also have the option of ordering other knife shapes too for whatever you might want to do.
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/23/11 01:48 PM
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Brook W.
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Leslie really offered a fine analysis here and I'll take it a bit further.
Do you want to square timbers, smooth timbers, or straighten timbers?
If you want them square I'd have them planed at the mill.
If you just want to smooth I'd buy the 12". With sharp (disposable) blades it virtually glides down the timber and is easy on the body. The roller on the front helps tremendously with positioning and saves your elbow. It's an amazing machine.
If you want to straighten I'd go with the 6". Once straight you can smooth any ridges with a hand plane or smaller power plane. I like that these blades are not disposable.
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/24/11 01:04 AM
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TIMBEAL
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PLS the frame and only plane where you need too.
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/24/11 11:47 AM
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/24/11 12:07 PM
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Plumb Line Scribe, see Timber Framing issues #96 & 97. I would say it all depends on what the reason for planing the timber is?
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/25/11 01:26 PM
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I see dangerous minds think alike 134V..lol I started out with a broken down Dewalt, took the head out and let it do it's thing "freehand". If you start "late" and finish "early" on the timber, the leftovers can be cleaned up with a hand plane. Once I got my bandmill to where it could accept a large timber, I turned the 12.5" Dewalt into a pretty capable machine. Sure it won't take 1/4" of material per pass, but for cleaning up sticks it was perfect. Most of the timbers on my frame were done on the mill. My plan is to make a proper cradle for it, with a hitch type connection. This would allow for the rest of the mill to remain on the carriage. http://youtu.be/_-i7nNasEjc
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/27/11 01:34 AM
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Wow, that's pretty clever frwinks. Looks like it works great. Plus it looks like you can do more with with that setup. Put a bigger planer head ect..
Thanks to all for the input. I got a 12" Makita. It's a lot faster, much smoother finish. Way more $$...
My wood is reasonably square so I'm not looking to square things up unless there's something grossly off.
Even though my wood is pretty clean (I use a stiff brush on each face before I start), The Makita's blades get dull pretty quick. They're tiny, maybe 3/8 " wide. They don't look like they can be re-sharpened and I haven't found carbide repacments yet.
Some times the sole gets pitch'd up and it pushes hard. I spray Boeshield T-9 on it and use a razor blade with it wet then it's back to glide mode.
That aside, I'm happy with my decision.
Thanks
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/27/11 03:30 PM
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congrats on the purchase... that planer sure gets the job done I had the pleasure of using one on all my rafters, which you're right, was much quicker than setting them up on the mill. Just lay out a dozen or so at a time and let the Mak chew 'em up. I used some wax on the sole to make it slide a lil' easier, that thing weighs a ton. Any decent machine shop should be able to re-sharpen those for ya. The one I use to sharpen the 12's, also does the small 3.25" blades which are pretty thin.
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Re: 6 Inch vs 12 Inch Power Plane
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04/27/11 03:46 PM
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I've had luck extending the working life of the 12" blades by honing the backsides just enough to even out the shine. It's not resharpening but it'll give you several more easy passes. Wish I had a good source of cheap blades to suggest.
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