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"piece-sur-piece" #25237 01/19/11 04:13 PM
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Hi,

This is a request for information regarding "piece-sur-piece" log / timber framed buildings that were used in Upper Canada by the French as defensive buildings. These had a timber framed interior with a heavy log exterior to afford occupants protection from musket fire.

Does anyone have any photos of this type of building ?

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Ken Hume


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Re: "piece-sur-piece" #25300 01/24/11 02:52 PM
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Hi Ken;

I do not have any personal photos, but there are some on the internet. One is at http://www.maisonsdespatriotes.com/produit.cfm
under the name "Pièces sur pièces avec poteaux à coulisse". More searching using the names listed below will produce more photos using Google Images.

You didn't ask for it, but here is more information on this building method:

Pièce sur pièce en coulisse (French: piece on piece sliding in a groove) Horizontal wood pieces (poles, beams, planks) tenoned into grooves in posts. This type of construction allows shorter timbers to be used and a building can be extended an indefinite length by adding more bays, typically measuring ten feet. Similar methods of construction are found in most if not all Viking settled regions and was common in Scandinavia. It is one of the earliest building types of French-Canada used extensively by the Hudson’s Bay Company for trading posts across Canada. It became a common, widespread building method in Canada. Other French names reflect the shape of wood (bois) used between the posts such as planche en coulisse, madriers-, or pieux-. Also recorded in French as bois en coulisse, poteaux en coulisse, madriers en coulisse, poteaux entourées de pieux, charpente entourée de madriers, poteaux entourées de madriers, en poteaux et close de pieux, en pieux sur pieux. (Lessard and Vilandré 1974:117)
Used in the United States predominantly in early French forts and settlements along the Mississippi River, though examples also occur in other states including Maine, New York, Pennsylvania, Wyoming, and Michigan where the it is the construction method of oldest house in the state (Navarre-Anderson Trading Post, 1789)
Also known as Red River Frame, Hudson’s Bay Style, Hudson’s Bay Corners, Rocky Mountain Frame, and Manitoba Frame, “Métis” style, the “French” style, slotted post construction, panel construction, section panel, and post-and-panel. May have earth-fast posts or posts on a sill. James Hébert incorrectly presented it as “an entirely Canadian style” (Culture Built Upon the Land…Thesis 2007). Similar in construction with horizontal planks in grooved posts Swedish sleppvegg, skiftesverk (shift work), and Danish bulhuse (bole house). Also known other parts of central Europe, Medieval British Isles, including ständerbohlenbau (Switzerland, Austria and S. Germany), sumikowo-latkowej, (Poland), “a ritti e panconi” (Spain), and ? in Russia. Cf. corner post construction

This entry in my records in not totally complete. Also, there are a number of building methods which use vertical planks in a frame which are not listed here.

Jim


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Re: "piece-sur-piece" #25316 01/25/11 08:49 AM
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Wow Jim,

I admire your internet research ability and I shall now follow up on the many research start points that you provide above.

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Ken Hume


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In the "piece-sur-piece" buildings build by the fur traders, what kind of joint was historically used between the logs in the panels(where the scribe/chinking would be in a log building)? Did the Metis or french carpenters use the same 12 inch broad axe that was common by settlers in this part of the country?


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Hi Gumphri;

I have never seen a detail that showed anything but tightly fitted square or rectangular beams or planks in the panels.

I do not know what size or type of axe they used.

Good questions!

Jim


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"Heavy timber framing is not a lost art" Fred Hodgson, 1909
Re: "piece-sur-piece" #26462 05/21/11 10:41 PM
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In the alps, 'Blockbau', which is essentially squared log building, is done by tightly fitting the large timbers together, with a tongue and groove or at times a double tongue and groove to keep out drafts. Smaller outbuildings may be simply butt fitted when drafting is not an issue. Perhaps this fact might be of some help...

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