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 Models of Joinery
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01/21/13 01:48 AM
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I am new to TF. Want to add an addition to my home. Have MANY books, but am confused about a couple of the joints I may use.
Is there someone out there that makes MODELS of various joints - Most interested in the English Tying Joint...or Modified English tying joint.
Any software out there that has the various joints, user supplies beam dimensions, and software develops "templates" of how to layout the joint on the beam?
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Re: Models of Joinery
[Re: SculptorJDA]
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01/21/13 07:53 PM
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Jon Senior
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If you have many thousands of $s €s or £s then you can buy software to do this. For considerably less (Zero) you can use Sketchup + TFRubies but you'll need to learn the joints yourself in order to create the plans. TFRubies will help by creating the matching joinery (ie... you make the tenon, and TFRubies will make the mortise).
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/21/13 09:24 PM
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bmike
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It should be noted that one does not need the TF Rubies to successfully timber frame using SketchUp as a 3d modeling tool. They really are specialized tools, perfect for a small production environment, or someone working on a complex project, or someone doing design work for others. Here is an example (go to this link using Chrome, or another web browser with WebGL enabled: http://skfb.ly/lk4jhge0aIt is a small sample of the joinery used on the Frankfort Kentucky TFG Project from last year.
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/22/13 11:32 AM
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Jon Senior
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I didn't mean to imply that TFRubies are essential, but they do help for producing the shop drawings which the OP alluded to. Nice link. I'll have to have a play with SketchFab.
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/22/13 01:12 PM
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timberwrestler
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The English tying joint is generally scribed, although it could be done via mapping, or even square rule. For a good overview of how to cut the English tying joint get the back issues of Timber Framing Magazine, where Jack Sobon cuts his English barn (just a few years ago). The English tying joint is intrinsically tied to the scribing technique of layout, so while someone could cut a model joint for you, you'd still be missing a lot. If you want to see it done, I'd talk with my buddy Colin ( http://idframes.com/) who is in your neck of the woods, and uses them all the time.
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/22/13 01:29 PM
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bmike
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I didn't mean to imply that TFRubies are essential, but they do help for producing the shop drawings which the OP alluded to. Nice link. I'll have to have a play with SketchFab. I appreciate Clark's work, but think they add a level of complexity that can be a hindrance to building a good solid modeling foundation. Apologies, knew what you meant, should have phrased it better. SketchFab is very cool.
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/23/13 12:21 PM
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TIMBEAL
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I have been following Ray Kurzweil for some time, a futurist. He has often mentioned technology changes and how quick they can come. I also noted on the forestry forum someone brought up 3d printers and their use in model building of timber frames. Should be interesting how this will fit in, a printed model is just around the corner.
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/23/13 08:34 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have just downloaded SketchUp and the rubies. Will start the learning process soo.
JD
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/24/13 12:08 AM
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TIMBEAL
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The English tying joint is generally scribed, although it could be done via mapping, or even square rule. For a good overview of how to cut the English tying joint get the back issues of Timber Framing Magazine, where Jack Sobon cuts his English barn (just a few years ago). The English tying joint is intrinsically tied to the scribing technique of layout, so while someone could cut a model joint for you, you'd still be missing a lot. If you want to see it done, I'd talk with my buddy Colin ( http://idframes.com/) who is in your neck of the woods, and uses them all the time. Hi Brad, check this out, English Tie via square rule, with exception of the knees. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLD8-CEmTLE
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Re: Models of Joinery
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01/25/13 01:28 AM
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Nice Tim. I like the roof braces. What species are the knees?
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