Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Widening a barn by adding to the middle years ago #32231 04/19/14 12:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
J
JimJ Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
J
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
The barn we will be using as a house addition appears to have been widened many years ago.

The rafters all have about a 4 ft extension on the tops. These extensions look to be different material and different hewing then the other 20 foot section of all the rafters. The short rafter extensions do look similar to the queen posts and cross ties.


All the roof sheathing runs from ridge to eave. Most are one piece from the top purlin to the eave. With short 4 ft sections going from the top purlin to the ridge.

The cross ties are in three pieces - one for each isle. All of the isles are about 12 feet wide...but if the top was widened then the center isle would have been about 6 ft wide. The sheathing on the back gable is also has a vertical section of six foot long boards running up the middle. They are not all the same width as the sheathing on the sides of the gable end.

I know almost anything is possible, but would someone widen the middle of a barn? It looks like it would have happened early in the barns life.

We are planning on pulling the width back by removing the rafter extensions for our addition.

Attached Files
IMG_2211.JPG (1.89 MB, 297 downloads)
IMG_2162.JPG (1.79 MB, 274 downloads)
IMG_1629.JPG (1.59 MB, 280 downloads)
IMG_1484.JPG (1.43 MB, 276 downloads)
IMG_1512.JPG (1.94 MB, 317 downloads)
Re: Widening a barn by adding to the middle years ago [Re: JimJ] #32249 04/24/14 04:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 687
G
Gabel Offline
Member
Offline
Member
G
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 687
Interesting.

The rafters and roof decking (and some other pieces perhaps) could have been reused from an earlier building.

Makes more sense to me than cutting a barn in half and moving half of it in order to gain 6'. And I don't see any evidence lower in the frame that indicates that.

I'd love to be able to study it in person though.

Re: Widening a barn by adding to the middle years ago [Re: JimJ] #32251 04/24/14 10:42 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 447
Will Truax Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 447

I'm with Gabel, in part because the section of interrupted Tie in the Drive Bay does not look altered and the hewing looks stylistically like it was contemporaneous and executed by the same crew.

Could you put up a shot of the Rafter to Tie connection?


"We build too many walls and not enough bridges" - Isaac Newton

http://bridgewright.wordpress.com/

Re: Widening a barn by adding to the middle years ago [Re: Will Truax] #32260 05/01/14 12:40 AM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
J
JimJ Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
J
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 12
Attached are a couple pictures of the tying joint.

It would very possible that much of it was a frame that was re-used and widened. But it seems odd that they would cut in half and reuse the sheathing on the back gable wall. I have added a picture of the back gable. Seems like it would have been easier to just move the boards up, rather than cut them in half and and add a middle section if they were widening the barn at the same time as moving it.

It does make it interesting to try to figure out what happened over the years.

Attached Files
closeup of tie.jpg (1.75 MB, 234 downloads)
tie4.jpg (1.73 MB, 230 downloads)
tie joint.jpg (1.7 MB, 213 downloads)
back gable.jpg (2.87 MB, 223 downloads)
Re: Widening a barn by adding to the middle years ago [Re: JimJ] #32261 05/03/14 10:21 AM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 447
Will Truax Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 447

Thanks Jim -

I am not seeing the sort of anticipated possibility that had me asking after them - Though nor am I seeing the empty joinery typ to a re-purposed frame or one built with recycled framing.

The only empty/recycled joinery I see is the Bridle Joint (Tongue & Fork) which carries the rater extensions - This is typ to area ridge rafter connections - And the empty Purlin pocket the female side has which is typ to Ridge Purlins.

Gotta admit my curiosity is up - My ride soon shifts from treks to a Campton bridge rehab, south to Candia, lets figure out how to meet up there in the barn - PM me and we'll work out the wheres & whens


"We build too many walls and not enough bridges" - Isaac Newton

http://bridgewright.wordpress.com/


Moderated by  Jim Rogers, mdfinc 

Newest Members
Bradyhas1, cpgoody, James_Fargeaux, HFT, Wrongthinker
5137 Registered Users
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 5.4.45 Page Time: 0.065s Queries: 17 (0.024s) Memory: 3.1402 MB (Peak: 3.3977 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-06 00:03:06 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS