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#34047 - 10/14/16 04:50 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
Roger Nair Offline
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Since I have no idea about building, engineering standards and the approval process in the UK, I can offer no advice about requirements but Prudence and her virtuous sisters say look for local advice before building.

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#34048 - 10/14/16 04:56 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
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Appreciate it Roger smile

Ill ring the Sawmill tomorrow to see if I can convince them to get me some 6x10's.. if I replace all the beams with those I should be able to use the original 6 post design

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#34049 - 10/14/16 06:01 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
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Updated my drawing here, increased the span of the braces too, still 6 foot underneath the bottom of them,

all beams 6x10 and posts 6x6,

Thanks all for input smile


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#34050 - 10/14/16 06:07 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
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Ah i missed off the rear braces.. imagine they are there!

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#34051 - 10/15/16 06:57 AM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
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Ok so I've done the usual think on it overnight (always works quite well)

So if I were not able to get hold of 6x10 in fresh cut doug fir, could I then go for normal off the shelf KD 2x10 (like you said) with the eased edges like you get with normal carcassing then glue them together to make up the 6x10 would that be viable? I dont want to see metal fasteners, so could I just glue laminate them then buzz through some 5 1/2 screws from the back side?

And would this pose any issue working with fresh cut wood, fresh cut braces but KD beams? I take it as the beams are already dry I just cut the tenons a little short so they can shrink a little?

Thanks!

Elliott

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#34052 - 10/15/16 12:48 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
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Ok so I've been speaking to the my work buddies who im building this with, and the saw mill want quite a lot of cash for the 6x10'!

We are looking to go with the adding the extra bent option,

So I've redrawn it all up with resized braces and everything drawn as it will be built

All posts and beams are 6"x6" and the floor joists are 8"x2"

Let me know what you think of the plan,

Thanks!


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#34053 - 10/15/16 12:55 PM Re: First post and beam timber frame - mezzanine floor [Re: ejtrent]
Jay White Cloud Offline
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Hi Elliot,

I believe an added bent is but one option.

Another is to remove the oblique braces, and either use a Corbeling system and/or Truss System in concert with the Corbels. As such even a 100 mm square timber could suffice, and have seen similar with timbers as small as 75mm x 100mm when fashioned into a timber Truss Assembly...

I sent a PM as well to you with additional contact information...

Cheers,

j


Edited by Jay White Cloud (10/15/16 12:57 PM)
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