I have no problem with harder or lots of work if it is worth it in the end. That is the question that I would ask myself. Not if it is too much work or it is hard to figure.

The tie at the plate does make sense. There seems to be some variations to that. Anyone with one in mind, with pencil and paper? I was trying to think of a way with the dropped tie because of the advantage of more livable space above the tie when it is dropped.

Thanks for the responses.

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