Thanks, Roger. We are using story stick, 1x4 and laying out on them, then using it as a template for all other, skipped the tape, floppy things, blow in the wind and fall off the timber with a little movement, the recoil box is always falling over or needs to be pushed off the end of the timber to avoid knots. Have thought about using a scratch awl for marking. Have never gotten into the double pin markers. I just got a small one in a junk tool box, though. I presume yours has a large fence?

Oh, the metric system.....