and i'm much more inclined to these definitions:
# producing or capable of producing an intended result or having a striking effect; "an air-cooled motor was more effective than a witch's broomstick for rapid long-distance transportation"-LewisMumford; "effective teaching methods"; "effective steps toward peace"; "made an effective entrance ...
# able to accomplish a purpose; functioning effectively; "people who will do nothing unless they get something out of it for themselves are often highly effective persons..."-G.B.Shaw; "effective personnel"; "an efficient secretary"; "the efficient cause of the revolution"
# works well as a means or remedy; "an effective reprimand"; "a lotion that is effective in cases of prickly heat"
# exerting force or influence; "the law is effective immediately"; "a warranty good for two years"; "the law is already in effect (or in force)"
# existing in fact; not theoretical; real; "a decline in the effective demand"; "confused increased equipment and expenditure with the quantity of effective work done"
# ready for service; "the fort was held by about 100 effective soldiers"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
# Having the power to produce an effect or effects; Producing a decided or decisive effect; Efficient, serviceable, or operative; Actually in effect
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/effective
i was thinking more along the lines of how william mcdonough describes efficient vs. effective.
to break it down into a sentence:
nature is effective, nazis were efficient.
of course, his speech that included this sentiment was far more elegant and involved. perhaps it has jaded my thinking on the 2 words.
and its funny that it is ok for an old timer to have done something to be efficient, making best use of the time and technology available, but we cannot grant that to our peers...
and with that - i'm getting out of this as it will certainly derail into a technology = bad debate.
